[Haifux] Fwd: A meeting proposal - Ranting over poor internet support

Wed Mar 17 11:08:04 MSK 2010

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From: Lior Kaplan <kaplanlior at gmail.com>

You can open a parallel page to this one for non-government websites:
http://wiki.hamakor.org.il/index.php/%D7%90%D7%AA%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%9D_%D7%9E%D7%9E%D7%A9%D7%9C%D7%AA%D7%99%D7%99%D7%9D_%D7%9C%D7%90_%D7%AA%D7%A7%D7%A0%D7%99%D7%99%D7%9D

See also: http://www.mozilla.org.il/evangel.shtml

On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda
<ladypine at gmail.com>wrote:

> I think such a page should be dynamic (our site is static) and user
> editable, maybe a wiki. Maybe Hamakor already have such a setup or even page
> ready?
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Shahar Dag <dag at cs.technion.ac.il>
> Date: Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 9:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [Haifux] A meeting proposal - Ranting over poor internet
> support
> To: Haifux <haifux at haifux.org>
>
>
> Hello
>
>
>
> I agree that web sites should be accessible from more then one browser.
>
> I am not sure if sending 20 letters to a web muster on one day is better
> then 20 letters to the same web muster that arrives in a period of a month.
>
> I suggest opening a page in the clubs site that will contain:
>
>  1.. A table with the data of all the bad sites.
>    1.. The table should include:
>    2.. The company name
>    3.. The URL of the site
>    4.. The browser that is not working
>    5.. The problem
>    6.. The date this entry was added
>    7.. The email address of the webmaster
>    8.. The email address (or any other address) of the company headquarter
>    9.. The date this entry was added
>    10.. Did the fix the problem ( & when )
>  2.. Some templates of a letters to a webmaster / company headquarter
>  3.. Links to tools that can check the quality of the web page
>  4.. Links to instructions on how to make a web page standard
> I suggest that Linux-il and any Linux / open source community shell be
> asked
> to send the same letters according to this web page.
>
> I think that we shell include in the letter to the web muster a link to a
> free tool that can scan his web & point out all the non-standard parts. If
> we can point out to a solution page, this will be even better.
>
>
>
> Shahar
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Orr Dunkelman" <orr.dunkelman at gmail.com>
> To: "Haifux" <haifux at haifux.org>
> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 2:21 PM
> Subject: [Haifux] A meeting proposal - Ranting over poor internet support
>
>
> > Hi everybody,
> >
> > Well, we all know that feeling when we try to approach the website
> > http://some.url.here and fail because they require IE on a windows
> > machine.
> >
> > While the situation is slowly getting better (in some aspects), we are
> > still far away from the wonderland we promised ourselves (yeah, once
> > there will be 1000's of Linux users, once there will be an official
> > organization, once the moon will be green). In these instances we
> > usually complain when we hit a specific website where things do not
> > work. This sometimes lead to better support, but sometimes not. The
> > reason for failure is that we usually do not act as a group.
> >
> > Hence, I would like to suggest a "rant" meeting, where we will all sit
> > down together, and at the same time send complaint letters to as many
> > websites as possible (even those we are not users of). While it is
> > easy to answer to 1 person complaining on lack of true support, 20
> > people, each writing their own letter arriving at the same time (give
> > or take), is something which is harder to discard.
> >
> > Before the meeting we will collect the offending websites, and in the
> > meeting, each of us will send a polite email (with emphasis on
> > "polite") to the webmasters of all the websites (even if you are not a
> > client, mention that you cannot become a client until they have
> > support for your browser).
> >
> > Besides a hope for a better tomorrow for us and our children ;) we
> > will also increase our exposure, maybe shift things in the right
> > direction, and of course, have a wonderful time ranting on all the
> > nasty webmasters who insist that IE is the only solution.
> >
> > Any takers? (btw, this is a meeting which we can also hold
> > electronically, so those of us who cannot attend physically, can
> > attend through chats, IMs, and such),
> >
> > --
> > Orr Dunkelman,
> > Orr.Dunkelman at gmail.com
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