[Haifux] [HAIFUX LECTURE] Introduction to Flash Memory -- Leon Romanovsky

Wed Jan 16 18:09:43 MSK 2013

On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 9:24 PM, Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda
<ladypine at gmail.com>wrote:

> Amir, trolling is great when it has some truth in it.
>
>
The facts are:
> 1. I wrote the code for the new version of the site, made the
> sources accessible and released the basic package under the GPL (available
> as a tar ball from http://ladypine.org/make_site-1.tar.gz) when I was not
> affiliated with the Technion at all.
> 2. Haifux is currently managed by three people, one from Haifa university,
> one partially from the Technion, and one from the industry.
> 3. Haifux was founded by one person from the industry and one from the
> Technion.
>
> This means that Haifux has always been led by people from outside the
> Technion in collaboration (sometimes) with people from the Technion. This
> is why Haifux takes place in the evening, unlike all the Technion seminars.
> This is why we have not had the key to the PC cabinet for years. This is
> why we struggle to get a regular room. This is why we have trouble with car
> permits. This is why we fight to get our talks announced in the Technion.
>
> In short, we have been trying to get INTO the Technion for years, we
> certainly have no problem getting out.
>
> Orna
>
>
Thanks for the facts Orna.
I was just wondering why won't Haifux try to organize some activities for
the northern people. Lectures are good, but it seems to me very limiting to
have only lectures and only at the Technion.

Buy yes, I know, if I'm to advocate Linux in the Krayot/Haifa area I should
organize that myself, and just let Haifux know so they will be happy. But,
currently Tel Aviving :)

Thanks!

>
> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:29 AM, Amir Eldor <amir.eldor at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> warning: I am not usually trolling, but when I do, I have fun doing it.
>>
>> @Shlomi,
>>
>> I don't remember who said it, but he suggested the Haifux guys are afraid
>> to leave the Technion boundaries and do anything outside of their beloved
>> Taub. Thus, sharing their site's code in the wild, or doing anything that
>> is not Technion-based, is definitely out of the question.
>>
>> Also, I like the indentation on your name in your signature.
>>
>> Amir
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Shlomi Fish <shlomif at shlomifish.org>wrote:
>>
>>> Hello guy,
>>>
>>> On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 23:33:30 +0200
>>> guy keren <guy.choo.keren at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> > the site is not meant for collaboration, and as such - does not need
>>> > more engineering.
>>> >
>>>
>>> What do you mean by "more engineering"?
>>>
>>> > [please don't bring your trolling here]
>>> >
>>>
>>> Well, I cannot make heads nor tails of the sources in this page -
>>> http://www.haifux.org/about.html - do I really need to manually
>>> download all
>>> those links? Can I somehow find a tarball with all the sources, so I can
>>> submit
>>> a patch? Furthermore, there are many more good reasons to use a version
>>> control
>>> system (including for single-user development) rather than only to
>>> facilitate
>>> collaboration - see:
>>>
>>> http://www.shlomifish.org/lecture/Perl/Newbies/lecture5/version-control/motivation.html
>>>
>>> That put aside, someone had complained in 2007 about Haifux’s build
>>> system here
>>> - http://www.mail-archive.com/haifux@haifux.org/msg02591.html (also see
>>> my
>>> reply:
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/haifux@haifux.org/msg02598.html ), and
>>> while this
>>> may have improved somewhat since then, it seems that he ran into
>>> problems while
>>> trying to update the site too.
>>>
>>> Furthermore, software projects should not deliberately try to discourage
>>> people from contributing, see what I wrote about it here:
>>>
>>> * https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=769899
>>>
>>> Namely, thinking "no one contributes to my project so there is no need
>>> to make
>>> it easy for them" is likely going to be a self-fulfilling prophecy, and
>>> if you
>>> make it easier to contribute to your projects, then it's more probable
>>> people
>>> will.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>         Shlomi Fish
>>>
>>> > --guy
>>> >
>>> > On 01/07/2013 10:16 PM, Shlomi Fish wrote:
>>> > > Hi Orna,
>>> > >
>>> > > On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 20:52:10 +0200
>>> > > Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda <ladypine at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >> It is room 6. Shlomi, or anyone else, if you can edit the Hebrew
>>> page I
>>> > >> will be happy to update it. I lost the ability to do that due to
>>> encoding
>>> > >> problems.
>>> > >>
>>> > >
>>> > > Thanks for the info.
>>> > >
>>> > > I see the site's code is mentioned in
>>> http://www.haifux.org/about.html . Is
>>> > > the self-contained source available inside a version control system?
>>> If not,
>>> > > then Haifux should definitely use one, see:
>>> > >
>>> > > * http://perl-begin.org/tutorials/bad-elements/#version_control
>>> > >
>>> > > I don't want to start a flamewar here, but I think that there's a
>>> large
>>> > > general consensus among most open source developers (and a large
>>> number of
>>> > > clueful ones working on non open source software) that using version
>>> control
>>> > > is a good idea, and it will facilitate collaborating on the Haifux
>>> site.
>>> > >
>>> > > Regards,
>>> > >
>>> > >     Shlomi Fish
>>>
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