[Haifux] "Windows-Free" laptops in Haifa

Tzafrir Cohen tzafrir at cohens.org.il
Tue Feb 10 16:35:40 MSK 2009


On Sun, Feb 08, 2009 at 07:27:39PM +0200, Eli Billauer wrote:
> Dotan Cohen wrote:
> 
> > The hole here is that he is not expected to read the Windows EULA
> > until it is explicitly presented to him at first boot. He could _then_
> > decide to reject the license and contact Dell. It also says,
> > explicitly in the license, that the end user has the right to deny the
> > license and request a refund of the _software_.
> >   
> As far as I've seen, it tells the user to check the policy for refund. 
> It can very well be to cancel the whole deal, for a refund of the whole 
> sum. And the software can also be considered a present. I mean, suppose 
> that you go to the supermarket, and you get an extra piece of something 
> because you bought for X shekels. Do you think you'll have a chance to 
> get a refund for that?
> 
> And if you bought a travel package, and then found out something was 
> wrong about it, wouldn't the best expectation be to simply cancel the 
> deal, all money back?
> 
> The thing you're missing here, is that when you buy a laptop, you're 
> aware that there it comes with Windows. The only thing you can complain 
> about, is that you were forced to agree to something you don't agree 
> with. The only sensible solution in this case, in normal business terms, 
> is to cancel the deal. Completely.
> 
> I'm glad that Zvi Devir made some noise, because it got the message 
> through, that a computer can run something else than Windows. But as far 
> as I'm concerned, that's all there is to it.

Which is why I advised to buy a laptop from those who don't bundle
MS-Windows with it.

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