[Haifux] The 10th tip?

Sorana Fraier sf10095 at gmail.com
Sat Feb 7 09:48:49 MSK 2009

I believe that a 2 way approach should appear in this wiki. The faster way
(e.g command line) and the 2nd way which is GUI. Most of the tasks mentioned
here can be done via gui as well. We can give them a way to choose what they
want.  Advanced section as mentioned by Dave is fine.

On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 4:34 AM, Adir Abraham <adir at hamakor.org.il> wrote:

> I strongly agree with Dave and Dotan. The regular user is looking for
> simplicity and less typing. This will convince him that it's impossible to
> use Linux from a user's point of view.
> Adir
> On 2/7/09, Dave Roi <davidroi at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I strongly agree with Dotan here,
>> Every single task a Linux user (user, not administrator) or even a
>> programmer will ever want to do, he can do it using GUI alone.
>> I believe that the perception that every Linux user needs to know how to
>> use the command line if he wants to use Linux is an archaic perception that
>> doesn't fit in with todays modern world and the modern Linux distributions
>> available today.
>> We try to show them how modern Linux is and how pretty Compiz Fusion is,
>> and how KDE 4 is much prettier than windows 7<http://www.zdnet.com.au/insight/software/soa/Is-it-Windows-7-or-KDE-4-/0,139023769,339294810,00.htm>,
>> but then we open a big ugly black screen that looks like DOS and start
>> showing them all the l33t tricks we picked up in all the years we've been
>> using Linux.
>> I know using the command line is faster and easier and more powerful and
>> everything, I use it myself all the time, but for the windows user's point
>> of view, this is a total contradiction to the user friendliness we try so
>> hard to preach.
>> I know it's hard, but it's something I believe we must do if we ever want
>> the simple windows user to start using Linux.
>> I mean, look at the Technion. These are computer science majors we are
>> talking about, and we can't even convince them to use it! how will we ever
>> be able to convince the regular folks?
>> So please, pretty please, with a cherry on top, stick to GUI apps when you
>> teach a windows user how to use Linux.
>> Dave.
>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 21:39, Dotan Cohen <dotancohen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 2009/2/6 Yossi Gil <yossi.gil at gmail.com>:
>>> > Folks, I realize the document I made was not sent, since this list does
>>> not
>>> > take attachments.  Here it goes.
>>> >
>>> This document will only scare people away from Linux. Do not include
>>> the command line tips. It makes it appear that you have to know these
>>> commands in order to use Linux.
>>> --
>>> Dotan Cohen
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