[Haifux] The 10th tip?

Adir Abraham adir at hamakor.org.il
Sat Feb 7 05:34:49 MSK 2009

I strongly agree with Dave and Dotan. The regular user is looking for
simplicity and less typing. This will convince him that it's impossible to
use Linux from a user's point of view.


On 2/7/09, Dave Roi <davidroi at gmail.com> wrote:
> I strongly agree with Dotan here,
> Every single task a Linux user (user, not administrator) or even a
> programmer will ever want to do, he can do it using GUI alone.
> I believe that the perception that every Linux user needs to know how to
> use the command line if he wants to use Linux is an archaic perception that
> doesn't fit in with todays modern world and the modern Linux distributions
> available today.
> We try to show them how modern Linux is and how pretty Compiz Fusion is,
> and how KDE 4 is much prettier than windows 7<http://www.zdnet.com.au/insight/software/soa/Is-it-Windows-7-or-KDE-4-/0,139023769,339294810,00.htm>,
> but then we open a big ugly black screen that looks like DOS and start
> showing them all the l33t tricks we picked up in all the years we've been
> using Linux.
> I know using the command line is faster and easier and more powerful and
> everything, I use it myself all the time, but for the windows user's point
> of view, this is a total contradiction to the user friendliness we try so
> hard to preach.
> I know it's hard, but it's something I believe we must do if we ever want
> the simple windows user to start using Linux.
> I mean, look at the Technion. These are computer science majors we are
> talking about, and we can't even convince them to use it! how will we ever
> be able to convince the regular folks?
> So please, pretty please, with a cherry on top, stick to GUI apps when you
> teach a windows user how to use Linux.
> Dave.
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 21:39, Dotan Cohen <dotancohen at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 2009/2/6 Yossi Gil <yossi.gil at gmail.com>:
>> > Folks, I realize the document I made was not sent, since this list does
>> not
>> > take attachments.  Here it goes.
>> >
>> This document will only scare people away from Linux. Do not include
>> the command line tips. It makes it appear that you have to know these
>> commands in order to use Linux.
>> --
>> Dotan Cohen
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