[Haifux] W2L + Installation party?

Dave Roi davidroi at gmail.com
Wed Sep 17 16:33:53 MSD 2008


I've been using 8.04 at home since it was beta and the only sound issue I
have is with Wine integration.
All the farm stations are using 8.04 and AFAIK they have no sound issues.
There were some issues in the beginning but AFAIK they were all fixed.
Anyways, Wubi alone is reason enough to choose Ubuntu. Messing with people's
partitions is a scary thing.


On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 14:47, guy keren <choo at actcom.co.il> wrote:

> whatever you do - please be careful with choosing ubuntu - version 8.04
> completely broke sound support for many programs i'm talking about usability
> - not about politics) - and people kept asking questions about this issue on
> the various forums, at least until august (i stopped looking, since by that
> time i managed to somehow work around most of the sound issues).
> i understood that in fedora 9 (that also integraded soundpulse to some
> extent) - this problem does not exist.
> sound is quite an important feature for people's desktops.
> --guy
> Dave Roi wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I believe instaparties are still needed, just with more focus on post
>> install configuration and usage instructions.
>> I suggest focusing on installing all the cool packages that are needed but
>> aren't installed by default like setting up the dial up connections to their
>> ISPs, codecs, fonts, rar, ace, etc..
>> I'm sorry but the default install still lacks too much functionality and
>> most newbies aren't aware of their existance.
>> I would highly suggest doing the entire installation including post
>> install configurations using GUI alone.
>> No pounding giberish in the Terminal. It scares the newbies away :-)
>> Show them the fun stuff, the cool music players like amarok and Listen,
>> Elisa the media center, Nexuiz/Urban terror etc, NOT vim and programing.
>> How about a few stations on the side for people to play Nexuiz against
>> each other? :-)
>> I say lectures aren't needed, just have lots of veterans going around
>> helping people.
>> About the distro choice, I would go the Ubuntu way for the following
>> reasons:
>> 1. That's the name most people have heard (from friends etc..).
>> 2. That's what they see in the faculty.
>> 3. Wubi, The windows Ubuntu Installer is the easiest way to dual boot. No
>> partitioning required.
>> About KDE, Haven't tried the 4.1.1 release yet, but 4.1 wasn't ready for
>> any real use.
>> I'm a gnome guy but that's a matter of personal taste.
>> Hopefully I'll be able to join the instaparty and help, it depends what
>> day/time is decided.
>> Dave.
>> On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 14:14, Orr Dunkelman <orr.dunkelman at gmail.com<mailto:
>> orr.dunkelman at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>    And now answering Adir:
>>    On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Adir Abraham <adir at hamakor.org.il
>>    <mailto:adir at hamakor.org.il>> wrote:
>>     > Hi all,
>>     >
>>     > I was thinking about organizing yet another Linux Installation
>> Party,
>>     > sometime in November.
>>     > The idea is to combine it with the W2L series, so people will see
>>    that it is
>>     > not just good in "theory".
>>     >
>>     > My reasons for the need of Instaparty are:
>>     >
>>     > 1) Hands-on experience. The best way to show what you talk in the
>>    lectures
>>     > is to let them experience it.
>>    Indeed, but today you can do it without installation. We have liveCDs,
>>    and in any case, the majority of the people who arrive to this event
>>    are students, who in any way have access to *NIX machines.
>>     > 2) People will be able to practice installation on their own
>>    computer, with
>>     > the help of a veteran installer.
>>    I personally believe that you do not need this today. Even NTFS
>>    partitioning is done quite automatically today.
>>     > 3) To show them that Linux is both easy to install and use. They
>>    will be
>>     > able to "play" with their distribution afterwards.
>>    Live-CD for playing. Installation for those who want, and I do not
>>    think that you need "Tana' demesaye" for this anymore.
>>    As the numbers from last insta parties show - people do not need this
>>    service anymore. Those who install Linux are no longer afraid of the
>>    process (and they shouldn't).
>>    There is a need for a post-installation support (Q&A session in the
>>    W2L would probably make a lot of sense).
>>    Regards,
>>    Orr.
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