[Haifux] W2L + Installation party?
guy keren
choo at actcom.co.il
Wed Sep 17 15:47:37 MSD 2008
whatever you do - please be careful with choosing ubuntu - version 8.04
completely broke sound support for many programs i'm talking about
usability - not about politics) - and people kept asking questions about
this issue on the various forums, at least until august (i stopped
looking, since by that time i managed to somehow work around most of the
sound issues).
i understood that in fedora 9 (that also integraded soundpulse to some
extent) - this problem does not exist.
sound is quite an important feature for people's desktops.
--guy
Dave Roi wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I believe instaparties are still needed, just with more focus on post
> install configuration and usage instructions.
>
> I suggest focusing on installing all the cool packages that are needed
> but aren't installed by default like setting up the dial up connections
> to their ISPs, codecs, fonts, rar, ace, etc..
> I'm sorry but the default install still lacks too much functionality and
> most newbies aren't aware of their existance.
>
> I would highly suggest doing the entire installation including post
> install configurations using GUI alone.
> No pounding giberish in the Terminal. It scares the newbies away :-)
> Show them the fun stuff, the cool music players like amarok and Listen,
> Elisa the media center, Nexuiz/Urban terror etc, NOT vim and programing.
> How about a few stations on the side for people to play Nexuiz against
> each other? :-)
>
> I say lectures aren't needed, just have lots of veterans going around
> helping people.
>
> About the distro choice, I would go the Ubuntu way for the following
> reasons:
>
> 1. That's the name most people have heard (from friends etc..).
> 2. That's what they see in the faculty.
> 3. Wubi, The windows Ubuntu Installer is the easiest way to dual boot.
> No partitioning required.
>
> About KDE, Haven't tried the 4.1.1 release yet, but 4.1 wasn't ready for
> any real use.
> I'm a gnome guy but that's a matter of personal taste.
>
> Hopefully I'll be able to join the instaparty and help, it depends what
> day/time is decided.
>
>
> Dave.
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 14:14, Orr Dunkelman <orr.dunkelman at gmail.com
> <mailto:orr.dunkelman at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> And now answering Adir:
>
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Adir Abraham <adir at hamakor.org.il
> <mailto:adir at hamakor.org.il>> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I was thinking about organizing yet another Linux Installation Party,
> > sometime in November.
> > The idea is to combine it with the W2L series, so people will see
> that it is
> > not just good in "theory".
> >
> > My reasons for the need of Instaparty are:
> >
> > 1) Hands-on experience. The best way to show what you talk in the
> lectures
> > is to let them experience it.
> Indeed, but today you can do it without installation. We have liveCDs,
> and in any case, the majority of the people who arrive to this event
> are students, who in any way have access to *NIX machines.
>
> > 2) People will be able to practice installation on their own
> computer, with
> > the help of a veteran installer.
> I personally believe that you do not need this today. Even NTFS
> partitioning is done quite automatically today.
>
> > 3) To show them that Linux is both easy to install and use. They
> will be
> > able to "play" with their distribution afterwards.
> Live-CD for playing. Installation for those who want, and I do not
> think that you need "Tana' demesaye" for this anymore.
>
> As the numbers from last insta parties show - people do not need this
> service anymore. Those who install Linux are no longer afraid of the
> process (and they shouldn't).
>
> There is a need for a post-installation support (Q&A session in the
> W2L would probably make a lot of sense).
>
> Regards,
> Orr.
>
> --
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