[Haifux] W2L + Installation party?

guy keren choo at actcom.co.il
Wed Sep 17 15:47:37 MSD 2008

whatever you do - please be careful with choosing ubuntu - version 8.04 
completely broke sound support for many programs i'm talking about 
usability - not about politics) - and people kept asking questions about 
this issue on the various forums, at least until august (i stopped 
looking, since by that time i managed to somehow work around most of the 
sound issues).

i understood that in fedora 9 (that also integraded soundpulse to some 
extent) - this problem does not exist.

sound is quite an important feature for people's desktops.


Dave Roi wrote:
> Hi,
> I believe instaparties are still needed, just with more focus on post 
> install configuration and usage instructions.
> I suggest focusing on installing all the cool packages that are needed 
> but aren't installed by default like setting up the dial up connections 
> to their ISPs, codecs, fonts, rar, ace, etc..
> I'm sorry but the default install still lacks too much functionality and 
> most newbies aren't aware of their existance.
> I would highly suggest doing the entire installation including post 
> install configurations using GUI alone.
> No pounding giberish in the Terminal. It scares the newbies away :-)
> Show them the fun stuff, the cool music players like amarok and Listen, 
> Elisa the media center, Nexuiz/Urban terror etc, NOT vim and programing.
> How about a few stations on the side for people to play Nexuiz against 
> each other? :-)
> I say lectures aren't needed, just have lots of veterans going around 
> helping people.
> About the distro choice, I would go the Ubuntu way for the following 
> reasons:
> 1. That's the name most people have heard (from friends etc..).
> 2. That's what they see in the faculty.
> 3. Wubi, The windows Ubuntu Installer is the easiest way to dual boot. 
> No partitioning required.
> About KDE, Haven't tried the 4.1.1 release yet, but 4.1 wasn't ready for 
> any real use.
> I'm a gnome guy but that's a matter of personal taste.
> Hopefully I'll be able to join the instaparty and help, it depends what 
> day/time is decided.
> Dave.
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 14:14, Orr Dunkelman <orr.dunkelman at gmail.com 
> <mailto:orr.dunkelman at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     And now answering Adir:
>     On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Adir Abraham <adir at hamakor.org.il
>     <mailto:adir at hamakor.org.il>> wrote:
>      > Hi all,
>      >
>      > I was thinking about organizing yet another Linux Installation Party,
>      > sometime in November.
>      > The idea is to combine it with the W2L series, so people will see
>     that it is
>      > not just good in "theory".
>      >
>      > My reasons for the need of Instaparty are:
>      >
>      > 1) Hands-on experience. The best way to show what you talk in the
>     lectures
>      > is to let them experience it.
>     Indeed, but today you can do it without installation. We have liveCDs,
>     and in any case, the majority of the people who arrive to this event
>     are students, who in any way have access to *NIX machines.
>      > 2) People will be able to practice installation on their own
>     computer, with
>      > the help of a veteran installer.
>     I personally believe that you do not need this today. Even NTFS
>     partitioning is done quite automatically today.
>      > 3) To show them that Linux is both easy to install and use. They
>     will be
>      > able to "play" with their distribution afterwards.
>     Live-CD for playing. Installation for those who want, and I do not
>     think that you need "Tana' demesaye" for this anymore.
>     As the numbers from last insta parties show - people do not need this
>     service anymore. Those who install Linux are no longer afraid of the
>     process (and they shouldn't).
>     There is a need for a post-installation support (Q&A session in the
>     W2L would probably make a lot of sense).
>     Regards,
>     Orr.
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