<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div></div>warning: I am not usually trolling, but when I do, I have fun doing it.<br><br>@Shlomi,<br><br></div><div>I don't remember who said it, but he suggested the Haifux guys are afraid to leave the Technion boundaries and do anything outside of their beloved Taub. Thus, sharing their site's code in the wild, or doing anything that is not Technion-based, is definitely out of the question.<br>
</div><div><br></div>Also, I like the indentation on your name in your signature.<br><br></div>Amir<br><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Shlomi Fish <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:shlomif@shlomifish.org" target="_blank">shlomif@shlomifish.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hello guy,<br>
<div class="im"><br>
On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 23:33:30 +0200<br>
guy keren <<a href="mailto:guy.choo.keren@gmail.com">guy.choo.keren@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
><br>
> the site is not meant for collaboration, and as such - does not need<br>
> more engineering.<br>
><br>
<br>
</div>What do you mean by "more engineering"?<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> [please don't bring your trolling here]<br>
><br>
<br>
</div>Well, I cannot make heads nor tails of the sources in this page -<br>
<a href="http://www.haifux.org/about.html" target="_blank">http://www.haifux.org/about.html</a> - do I really need to manually download all<br>
those links? Can I somehow find a tarball with all the sources, so I can submit<br>
a patch? Furthermore, there are many more good reasons to use a version control<br>
system (including for single-user development) rather than only to facilitate<br>
collaboration - see:<br>
<a href="http://www.shlomifish.org/lecture/Perl/Newbies/lecture5/version-control/motivation.html" target="_blank">http://www.shlomifish.org/lecture/Perl/Newbies/lecture5/version-control/motivation.html</a><br>
<br>
That put aside, someone had complained in 2007 about Haifux’s build system here<br>
- <a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/haifux@haifux.org/msg02591.html" target="_blank">http://www.mail-archive.com/haifux@haifux.org/msg02591.html</a> (also see my<br>
reply:<br>
<a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/haifux@haifux.org/msg02598.html" target="_blank">http://www.mail-archive.com/haifux@haifux.org/msg02598.html</a> ), and while this<br>
may have improved somewhat since then, it seems that he ran into problems while<br>
trying to update the site too.<br>
<br>
Furthermore, software projects should not deliberately try to discourage<br>
people from contributing, see what I wrote about it here:<br>
<br>
* <a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=769899" target="_blank">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=769899</a><br>
<br>
Namely, thinking "no one contributes to my project so there is no need to make<br>
it easy for them" is likely going to be a self-fulfilling prophecy, and if you<br>
make it easier to contribute to your projects, then it's more probable people<br>
will.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Shlomi Fish<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> --guy<br>
><br>
> On 01/07/2013 10:16 PM, Shlomi Fish wrote:<br>
> > Hi Orna,<br>
> ><br>
> > On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 20:52:10 +0200<br>
> > Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda <<a href="mailto:ladypine@gmail.com">ladypine@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> >> It is room 6. Shlomi, or anyone else, if you can edit the Hebrew page I<br>
> >> will be happy to update it. I lost the ability to do that due to encoding<br>
> >> problems.<br>
> >><br>
> ><br>
> > Thanks for the info.<br>
> ><br>
> > I see the site's code is mentioned in <a href="http://www.haifux.org/about.html" target="_blank">http://www.haifux.org/about.html</a> . Is<br>
> > the self-contained source available inside a version control system? If not,<br>
> > then Haifux should definitely use one, see:<br>
> ><br>
> > * <a href="http://perl-begin.org/tutorials/bad-elements/#version_control" target="_blank">http://perl-begin.org/tutorials/bad-elements/#version_control</a><br>
> ><br>
> > I don't want to start a flamewar here, but I think that there's a large<br>
> > general consensus among most open source developers (and a large number of<br>
> > clueful ones working on non open source software) that using version control<br>
> > is a good idea, and it will facilitate collaborating on the Haifux site.<br>
> ><br>
> > Regards,<br>
> ><br>
> > Shlomi Fish<br>
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