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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt;">I see that the votes
stand at 1:1 right now. Anyhow, I didn't even think about uninstalling
the relevant rpm (if I can find which one it is) just to see my whole
computer getting uninstalled.</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt;">Upgrading is not my cup
of tea either. As for the things I want to do, I'll take that question
as a car mechanic asking me where I want to drive to. The answer is
everywhere reasonable for that kind of car.</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt;">In my case, I want any
possible application involving sound to work. In the past, I've even
written small command line applications that opened /dev/dsp directly.
I wonder if that's possible today without a B.Sc. from Red Hat
University.</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt;">The bottom line is that
everything works if I kill pulseaudio before starting a given
application. And hey, that's slightly better than fixing things by
rebooting the computer, which I suppose is soon to be the best advice
Linux people will get for solving their problems. Does that remind some
other OS?</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt;">And the solutions
offered are to do things without understanding why they work, if they
work. Does that remind some other OS?</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt;">Since it seems like I
won't understand how pulseaudio works, and it happens to work so-so, I
think the best thing is to kill it without that little Frankenstein
waking up again. Even just to see what happens. Isn't that the good old
way to check things?<br>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt;">The irony is that I
have no idea how to do it. And if applications really depend on it in
the practical sense.</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt;">(I googled "get rid
pulseaudio fedora" as suggested. That was a good lead. Maybe I'll find
something interesting there)<br>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt;"> Eli<br>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt;">Maxim Kovgan wrote:</p>
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<div>hi.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 1:40 AM, Eli Billauer
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all,<br>
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I've been doing some sound editing lately on my FC12, just to discover
that there is a new annoyance in town, namely Pulseaudio.<br>
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I discovered it when Audacity failed to play back files or made choppy
noises. Other applications also seem to get messed up with this piece
of I-don't-know-what.<br>
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My first instinct is to kick it out of my system, but since Fedora is a
system for experts (are they going to open a Red Hat University soon?)
I don't really know how to do that and what consequences I may face. I
mean, it's not so easy to just shut down. Killing the server makes it
restart (as a matter of fact, killall -9 pulseaudio has become my
catch-all solution for audio problems lately). And I haven't even
figured out how to disable this restart mechanism.<br>
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<div>don't kick it. many packages depend on it.</div>
<div>gnome, kde...</div>
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And unfortunately, with all those fancy graphs and fluffy talk about
generalized everything, I haven't gotten to grasp how the machinery
ticks. Are there any special files? Domain sockets? What?<br>
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<div>forget it :)</div>
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<div>please explain what do you do with audio,</div>
<div>maybe it makes sense to make sure you have the right version of
audacity (or additional packages for its pulseaudio support installed)</div>
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Does anyone have insights about this? Is there any reason why this
audio server could be really useful, except for all the fine words said
about it? Weren't things OK as they were in the good old times, when
audio was just /dev/dsp?<br>
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<div>there were many problems back then. it was old oss interface
with no parallel device access, and many other problems.</div>
<div>you may try using oss v4, but I doubt fedore included a pulse
audio package with support to oss v.4</div>
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But most important of all: Should I give this thing a mighty kick in
the bottom? And if so, how?<br>
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<div>don't do that. see the 1st remark.</div>
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<div>please specify your work tasks.</div>
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Thanks,<br>
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Eli<br>
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