<div dir="ltr">Orna,<br><br>Thanks for raising this issue. Indeed, we would like to see more women active in CS and in the Linux community and gender based jokes never contribute to this.<br>Take note however that the article you reference includes stereotypical references to women (e.g., women are more sensitive to criticism, and even worse).<br>
Maintaining a gender neutral attitude is best.<br><br>Yosssi<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ladypine@gmail.com">ladypine@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir="ltr">Dear Dotan,<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="Ih2E3d">On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Dotan Cohen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dotancohen@gmail.com" target="_blank">dotancohen@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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2009/2/18 Yossi Gil <<a href="mailto:yossi.gil@gmail.com" target="_blank">yossi.gil@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
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</div>Pizza, soda, but what about _girls_?<br>
</blockquote></div><div><br>It is exactly this approach, of listing girls together with other "things which draw people to come", which makes a woman feel she cannot be "one of the guys" first, or "one of the professionals", but rather a sexual object first. This approach stems from the implicit assumption that people are male[*].<br>
<br>See sections 3.7 and 3.9 of the Encourage Women in Linux Howto:<br><br><a href="http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/x168.html" target="_blank">http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/x168.html</a><br>
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<br>Most of the recommendations there is good for newbies, no matter what gender, but some sections, especially these two, refer precisely to your approach.<br><br>Orna. <br><br>[*] A Person Paper on Purity in Language
<b>William Satire (alias Douglas R. Hofstadter) </b><a href="http://www.cs.virginia.edu/%7Eevans/cs655/readings/purity.html" target="_blank">http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~evans/cs655/readings/purity.html</a><br></div></div>
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