<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 9/17/08, <b class="gmail_sendername">Orr Dunkelman</b> <<a href="mailto:orr.dunkelman@gmail.com">orr.dunkelman@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Adir Abraham <<a href="mailto:adir@hamakor.org.il">adir@hamakor.org.il</a>> wrote:<br> ><br> > That's true, but if we want to make them interact with Linux more closely,<br>
> we need to show them the real option that it is installable, and the best<br> > way to show them that is to show a real installation, not just a<br> > demonstration of a working distro. Showing a working distro is just a matter<br>
> of showing a working KDE/Gnome for that matter... and your lovable update<br> > program.<br> <br> <br>The question is whether we should prove this by doing one installation<br> in front of their eyes, or actually install it on their computer.</blockquote>
<div><br>We want to:<br>1) Show them that it's working with their computer<br>2) Give them a system that they can use later at home <br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>The choice of the size of the HD you want to part is the user<br> decision. Once (s)he understands that they are asked how much space is<br> going to be taken from Windows to Linux, they will be able to figure<br> this out on their own (especially as you can tell people once how to<br>
choose the size). I do not think in any installation I've seen (or<br> done) we optimized the size (it was more like "We recommend at least<br> XXXX GBs, and you have XXX+1000 spare GBs in windows. I suggest<br>
XXXX+100. You say yes? good", where each of us just picked a random<br> number between 1000 and 0 as the extra space).</blockquote><div><br>What I meant is that we won't let them work on the partitions by themselves, but we'll do it for them. <br>
</div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> ><br> > The feeling is more personal when it's done in your computer. Needless to<br>
> say that it's faster (unless you put the whole CD in the main memory,<br> > ofcourse).<br> <br> <br>Of course, but if it is just for playing, you won't install. And once<br> you wish to commit - you'll install.</blockquote>
<div><br>"Playing" in the general term... Once you commit to install, you will use it because it's in your computer. That's why actually people brought their computers all the time... <br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>I think we can speak in numbers.<br> <br> Each year there are way more Linux users in Haifa area than people<br> attending the insta-party. Every year there are less installees<br> (according to what I've heard two years ago there were less than 10<br>
installations, the year before there were less than 10, the year<br> before less than 15, and the year before - less than 20). It becomes<br> so easy or so unwanted...</blockquote><div><br>I think that it was not organized well last times. I even explained it a few times. The low numbers are the reason for the bad organization, and lessons were taken. It still is a matter of willing to help, and not talking in numbers. The people will arrive if it is properly arranged. The installation can be part of a Linux Day, so more people will arrive. The instaparty must be linked somehow to a series of lectures for begineers, either as part of a Welcome to Linux day or as a separate day just for installations and relevant lectures, as it used to be.<br>
<br>Regards,<br><br>Adir<br></div></div><br>