[Haifux] [HAIFUX LECTURE] Introduction to Flash Memory -- Leon Romanovsky

Shlomi Fish shlomif at shlomifish.org
Thu Jan 10 12:59:13 MSK 2013


Hi Amir,

continuing the trolling… ;-)

On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 00:29:19 +0200
Amir Eldor <amir.eldor at gmail.com> wrote:

> warning: I am not usually trolling, but when I do, I have fun doing it.
> 
> @Shlomi,
> 
> I don't remember who said it, but he suggested the Haifux guys are afraid
> to leave the Technion boundaries and do anything outside of their beloved
> Taub. Thus, sharing their site's code in the wild, or doing anything that
> is not Technion-based, is definitely out of the question.
> 

The code is already shared: http://www.haifux.org/about.html (go to the Haifux
home page and press Site Code)[1] . In any case, if the Technion does not wish
the code to leave the boundaries they can set up a local version control system
hosted on http://www.haifux.org/ . Of course, if it's a distributed version
control system (or even if it is Subversion) then anyone can clone the
repository and all of its history and put it elsewhere, including on source
code sharing sites. Meaning: we must use
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights_management to protect the site's
source code from leaking (even though it's open source).

[1] - from the usability point-of-view, I think the about page is too crowded
with details of building the source code, and they should be moved to a
different page because they are of no interest to the casual (and
possibly not tech-savvy) visitor - a simple note with a link will be fine. See
for example the about page at http://perl-begin.org/about.html .

> Also, I like the indentation on your name in your signature.
> 

On Claws-Mail (and KMail and Pine before that) I use the <Tab> key for that, and
the "Regards,\n\n\tShlomi Fish\n" is not part of my signature, but rather
something that I write manually. On GMail, I cannot insert a tab so I Sometimes
resort to "— Shlomi Fish" (with compose-key and triple "-").

Regards,

<Tab>Shlomi Fish

> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Shlomi Fish <shlomif at shlomifish.org> wrote:
> 
> > Hello guy,
> >
> > On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 23:33:30 +0200
> > guy keren <guy.choo.keren at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > the site is not meant for collaboration, and as such - does not need
> > > more engineering.
> > >
> >
> > What do you mean by "more engineering"?
> >
> > > [please don't bring your trolling here]
> > >
> >
> > Well, I cannot make heads nor tails of the sources in this page -
> > http://www.haifux.org/about.html - do I really need to manually download
> > all
> > those links? Can I somehow find a tarball with all the sources, so I can
> > submit
> > a patch? Furthermore, there are many more good reasons to use a version
> > control
> > system (including for single-user development) rather than only to
> > facilitate
> > collaboration - see:
> >
> > http://www.shlomifish.org/lecture/Perl/Newbies/lecture5/version-control/motivation.html
> >
> > That put aside, someone had complained in 2007 about Haifux’s build system
> > here
> > - http://www.mail-archive.com/haifux@haifux.org/msg02591.html (also see my
> > reply:
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/haifux@haifux.org/msg02598.html ), and while
> > this
> > may have improved somewhat since then, it seems that he ran into problems
> > while
> > trying to update the site too.
> >
> > Furthermore, software projects should not deliberately try to discourage
> > people from contributing, see what I wrote about it here:
> >
> > * https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=769899
> >
> > Namely, thinking "no one contributes to my project so there is no need to
> > make
> > it easy for them" is likely going to be a self-fulfilling prophecy, and if
> > you
> > make it easier to contribute to your projects, then it's more probable
> > people
> > will.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >         Shlomi Fish
> >
> > > --guy
> > >
> > > On 01/07/2013 10:16 PM, Shlomi Fish wrote:
> > > > Hi Orna,
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 20:52:10 +0200
> > > > Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda <ladypine at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> It is room 6. Shlomi, or anyone else, if you can edit the Hebrew page
> > I
> > > >> will be happy to update it. I lost the ability to do that due to
> > encoding
> > > >> problems.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the info.
> > > >
> > > > I see the site's code is mentioned in http://www.haifux.org/about.html.
> > > > Is the self-contained source available inside a version control system?
> > If not,
> > > > then Haifux should definitely use one, see:
> > > >
> > > > * http://perl-begin.org/tutorials/bad-elements/#version_control
> > > >
> > > > I don't want to start a flamewar here, but I think that there's a large
> > > > general consensus among most open source developers (and a large
> > number of
> > > > clueful ones working on non open source software) that using version
> > control
> > > > is a good idea, and it will facilitate collaborating on the Haifux
> > site.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > >     Shlomi Fish
> >
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