[Haifux] Router question

Sorana Fraier sf10095 at gmail.com
Sat Oct 16 23:25:56 MSD 2010


forgot to mention, i use bezeqint too.

On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Sorana Fraier <sf10095 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Ohad
>
> I ran a whois on  77.67.66.9. It turns out that it belongs to Tiscali
> network. They are very notorious in traffic shaping. They use to work with
> 012. I didn't know that bezeqint works with them too. I used to have tons of
> problems when I had internet with 012.
>
> If you can avoid traffic through them, do that. Otherwise, I don't know
> what can be done.  Maybe other have a better idea.
>
> i ran too tcptraceroute to the same ip as yours.
>
> here is the output about tiscali from here (I skipped the first 10 hops):
>
> 11  77.67.66.9  65.208 ms  64.018 ms  67.894 ms
> 12  89.149.187.210  89.924 ms  98.971 ms  88.379 ms
> 13  194.50.100.190  158.058 ms  163.518 ms  172.186 ms
> 14  * * *
> 15  195.113.69.57  176.454 ms  183.741 ms  182.775 ms
> 16  195.113.68.150  100.259 ms  98.225 ms  99.370 ms
> 17  195.113.68.198  98.377 ms  99.620 ms  102.622 ms
> 18  195.113.69.170  179.713 ms  178.286 ms  179.791 ms
> 19  195.113.69.6  174.207 ms  175.161 ms  170.599 ms
> 20  195.113.19.83 [open]  219.739 ms  237.707 ms  222.181 ms
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Ohad Lutzky <ohad at lutzky.net> wrote:
>
>> Okay, that's something I can use! Here's what I get - all hope up to and
>> including 7 are from within bezeqint (without useful reverse dns
>> resolutions). Hop 8 is
>>
>> sudo tcptraceroute -i eth0 -n 195.113.19.83 11371
>> traceroute to 195.113.19.83 (195.113.19.83), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
>>  1  10.0.0.138  4.018 ms  4.000 ms  3.993 ms
>>  2  212.179.37.1  20.982 ms  22.589 ms  22.581 ms
>>  3  212.179.87.173  24.302 ms  27.114 ms  28.475 ms
>>  4  212.179.152.157  29.563 ms  30.513 ms  31.462 ms
>>  5  212.179.124.145  37.292 ms  37.288 ms  37.274 ms
>>  6  212.179.124.162  40.561 ms  51.928 ms  54.370 ms
>>  7  62.219.189.14  4317.354 ms 212.179.124.26  4303.544 ms  4301.958 ms
>>  8  77.67.66.9  199.620 ms * *
>>  9  * * *
>> 10  * * *
>> 11  * * *
>> 12  * * *
>> 13  * * *
>> 14  * * *
>> 15  * * *
>> 16  * * *
>> 17  * * *
>> 18  * * *
>> 19  * * *
>> 20  * * *
>> 21  * * *
>> 22  * * *
>> 23  * * *
>> 24  * * *
>> 25  * * *
>> 26  * * *
>> 27  * * *
>> 28  * * *
>>  29  * * *
>> 30  * * *
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 8:48 PM, guy keren <choo at actcom.co.il> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> you should have a traceroute-line utility that runs on TCP ports of your
>>> choice.
>>>
>>> for example, tcptraceroute.
>>>
>>> see an explanation here:
>>>
>>> http://christophe.vandeplas.com/2007/11/04/using-traceroute-icmp-and-tcp
>>>
>>> --guy
>>>
>>> Ohad Lutzky wrote:
>>>
>>>> traceroute is ICMP. I'm having trouble with specific ports on TCP.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Dave Roi <davidroi at gmail.com <mailto:
>>>> davidroi at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>    Did you try running traceroute to the pgp server or android market
>>>>    server?
>>>>    See how many hops it does go and see in which one it gets stuck.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 19:36, Ohad Lutzky <ohad at lutzky.net
>>>>    <mailto:ohad at lutzky.net>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>        Hello everyone,
>>>>
>>>>        I have a Linksys DSL-2760u router/DSL modem, using a Wow (Bezeq)
>>>>        connection to the Bezeq International ISP. It seems that various
>>>>        outgoing ports are blocked - HTTP, HTTPS, bittorrent and SSH
>>>>        work well enough, but - for example - I can't download Android
>>>>        apps from the Market. Easier to test, I can't download PGP
>>>>        public keys. For example:
>>>>
>>>>        gpg -v -v --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net <http://subkeys.pgp.net>
>>>>
>>>>        --recv F120156012B83718
>>>>        gpg: requesting key 12B83718 from hkp server subkeys.pgp.net
>>>>        <http://subkeys.pgp.net>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        This hangs indefinitely. So does this:
>>>>        telnet subkeys.pgp.net <http://subkeys.pgp.net> 11371
>>>>
>>>>        Trying 195.113.19.83...
>>>>
>>>>        The same occurs for other keyservers, git-protocol, and various
>>>>        other "unconventional" high-port usage. I've gone over the
>>>>        router settings, disabled its firewall (but not NAT, which I
>>>>        need), added my machine to the DMZ (this actually seems to help,
>>>>        sometimes, for git - and even then, only once), tried port
>>>>        triggering... I can't get a consistent result.
>>>>
>>>>        I should note that this issue only exists for *outgoing* ports.
>>>>        I have no problem mapping *incoming* ports (such as my openssh
>>>>        server or bittorrent web interface).
>>>>
>>>>        --         Man is the only animal that laughs and weeps, for he
>>>> is the only
>>>>        animal that is struck with the difference between what things
>>>>        are and what they ought to be.
>>>>         - William Hazlitt
>>>>
>>>>        Ohad Lutzky
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Man is the only animal that laughs and weeps, for he is the only animal
>>>> that is struck with the difference between what things are and what they
>>>> ought to be.
>>>>  - William Hazlitt
>>>>
>>>> Ohad Lutzky
>>>>
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>>
>> --
>> Man is the only animal that laughs and weeps, for he is the only animal
>> that is struck with the difference between what things are and what they
>> ought to be.
>>  - William Hazlitt
>>
>> Ohad Lutzky
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