[Haifux] Thanks for participating in the rant workshop

Orr Dunkelman orr.dunkelman at gmail.com
Wed Apr 28 20:28:31 MSD 2010

Dear all,

I would like to thank all of you who attended Monday's rant workshop,
both in physical form and from the distance. To recap what happened,
we started with a short discussion about this entire idea, and whether
this is useful or not.

After Dotan suggested to coordinate a long-term initiative in the
matter (which he sent an email to the mailing list yesterday), we
started sending emails.

We looked at hamakor's wiki, and picked websites at random, trying to
verify their lack of support for FF and other Linux browsers [1]. We
checked FF on Windows, as well as several browsers (chrome, FF, etc.)
on Linux, and when there was a difference we looked for the contact
persons. First of all we found out that many of the websites that are
listed there became accessible on FF (either due to better website or
better FF versions). Which forced us to look very carefully for the
problematic websites.

The list of all problematic websites which contacted are listed at
http://www.haifux.org/lectures/233/website.txt. Fill free to send them
comments yourself. Please note that this is a very short list, as the
actual part of the meeting started relatively late (following the
discussion), and the fact that there were only a few people attending
(so when some of them left, it was a two-men show).

For future events (if anyone wishes to do so), it is advised to ask
for the verification of the website before the meeting. Also, it would
be wise to try and view the sites in question using hand-held devices.

[1] - We did not check W3 compliance. The reason was that we assume
webmasters are more concerned with "does the site works" rather than
"how the site works". Hence, we tried only graphical interfaces
(sorry, no lynx), and we had no problem deeming a website "functional"
when the everything worked on Linux.

Best regards,

Orr Dunkelman,
Orr.Dunkelman at gmail.com

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