[Haifux] Idea: "Welcome to Open Source" instead of "Welcome to Linux" this year

[Ohad Lutzky]

I agree. "Welcome to Linux and FOSS" should be the name, and a short (no
more than 20 words) explanation of the name should preclude the event.

On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:06 PM, boazg <boaz.gezer at gmail.com> wrote:

> IMHO it's a branding issue. Linux is a brand name. When you say "Welcome to
> Linux" it has associations. When you say welcome to FOSS, people give you a
> blank stare, and then you have to explain, all the while making sure your
> arguments don't enter tin-foil-hat land.
> It's not as if Welcome to Linux involves compiling your kernel, loading
> modules, or creating device nodes. It has very little to do with Linux
> itself and could be done on BSD or HURD for all intents and purposes. You
> show them gnome/KDE, firefox, OOo, gimp, etc.
> So in short, while it's a great idea, I think there's an advantage to the
> branding that gets people to come.
>
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 12:19, Shlomi Fish <shlomif at iglu.org.il> wrote:
>
>> Hi all!
>>
>> When talking with someone a few days ago, I had a moment of Serendipity
>> (see:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serendipity ). Why don't we do a
>> "Welcome-to-
>> FOSS" (Free and Open Source Software) this year instead of
>> "Welcome-to-Linux"?
>> We could show people some cool stuff about FOSS in both Linux and Windows:
>>
>> 1. Cross-platform (or even Windows-only) User-oriented FOSS - Firefox,
>> OpenOffice.org, Inkscape, VirtualBox, GIMP, 7-zip, Notepad++, Audacity,
>> various FOSS games, other stuff here -
>> http://wiki.perl.org.il/index.php/FOSS_on_Windows and here -
>> http://www.opensourcewindows.org/
>>
>> 2. Open Source Development with a focus on rapid scripts/GUI-programs/etc.
>> development using Perl/Python/Ruby/etc.[ScriptLang]
>>
>> 3. "Don't be afraid of the command line." - why the UNIX command line can
>> be
>> useful.
>>
>> 4. The Free and Open Source Software philosophy and ideology and its
>> positive
>> implications on FOSS development and the computer and software industry:
>>
>>        - http://www.shlomifish.org/philosophy/foss-other-beasts/
>>
>>        - http://www.shlomifish.org/philosophy/obj-oss/
>>
>>        - Also see the links from there.
>>
>> (Ori would probably be happy to give it.)
>>
>> 5. And naturally and possibly - something about how to try out Linux,
>> possibly
>> using a VirtualBox/etc. VM.
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> I think that now FOSS is more ubiquitous and mainstream than just on
>> alternative, fully open-source, operating systems such as Linux. One
>> should
>> also remember that the main issue at hand is not Linux vs. Windows but
>> rather
>> the freedom of software and its open nature. Porting to Windows is no
>> different from porting one's software to proprietary UNIXes such as Mac OS
>> X,
>> AIX, HP/UX or Solaris before it became OpenSolaris. [Windows]
>>
>> So what do you think? Am I crazy or am I on to something? Two people I
>> talked
>> with liked the idea, and a different one had some doubts.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>        Shlomi Fish
>>
>> Footnotes:
>> ----------
>>
>> [ScriptLang] - we can have a colour of the bikeshed argument of which
>> agile
>> language to teach later on, but ultimately it's up to who volunteers to
>> prepare the slides and present the presentation.
>>
>> [Windows] - Windows is indeed less compatible to Linux than other UNIXes,
>> but:
>>
>> 1. There are many incompatibilities between the different UNIXes.
>>
>> 2. There are some operating systems that are still being used (such as
>> HP's
>> VMS) which are even harder to port to than Windows.
>>
>> 3. "Reality to be conquered must be obeyed."
>> --
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
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>>
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