[Haifux] [W2L] Call for lecturer + "Linux guru"

[guy keren]

(if you top-post - i'll post-top too! :P~~~)

well, that _is_ good news for employers (bad news for the students ;)

--guy

Vadim Eisenberg wrote:
> guy keren wrote:
>> you can mention memory leaks if you want - but students don't care about them so much, because it doesn't break their programs.
> 
> Starting from the Winter 2008-2009 semester, the memory leaks are checked in Matam (Introduction to Systems Programming) course and 1 point is reduced for each leak. The check is done automatically, using, guess what, valgrind. So the students in Matam actually care very much about the memory leaks.
> 
> Vadim
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: haifux-bounces at haifux.org [mailto:haifux-bounces at haifux.org] On Behalf Of guy keren
> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 9:47 AM
> To: Eli Billauer
> Cc: Haifa Linux Club
> Subject: Re: [Haifux] [W2L] Call for lecturer + "Linux guru"
> 
> Eli Billauer wrote:
>> guy keren wrote:
>>
>>> what - no valgrind?
>>>
>> I stand corrected. A quick demonstration of valgrind (show how it 
>> detects memory leaks and access to unallocated/uninitialized memory) 
>> is in place. It's definitely something handy for a student, and it's 
>> so simple to use.
>>
>>   Eli
>>
> 
> i think the best demo for valgrind would be:
> 
> 1. this step should be done at home: write a program that has a non-obvious problem with corrupting its memory (make sure that when you run it, it actually crashes)
> 
> 2. the next steps will be done during the demonstration: show it to the people (the source, how the program crashes, and how you fail to find the problem even when the crash is done inside gdb)
> 
> 3. show them how you find the bug within seconds using valgrind.
> 
> you can mention memory leaks if you want - but students don't care about them so much, because it doesn't break their programs. they do care about memory corruption if it indeed causes their program to crash.
> 
> --guy
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